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Thread: "Crucible of Gold"; "Dragon that can spit fire and has the divine wind"

- Contrairy to Iskierka we don't think this would be possible. As we don't know exactly how fire breathing works, we can just guess. Maybe the gaz for the fire and the air for the divine wind interfere and would make it very dangerous for the dragon to ignite it. The divine wind extinguishs fire, fire breathing wouldn't work too because of the high air pressure. A dragon would just be able to use both abilities at the same time, otherwise it would be difficult for him to control it. Both together would be a very dangerous weapon.
- Transmission: Vici's mother was a fire breather, Vici wasn't. Fire and poison become stronger the more of it is bred, it becomes weaker if it is bred with normal dragons. It is possible to breed fire breathers with normal dragons (Shao Chu wants to do this), the divine wind sometimes appears as a mutation but it is just transmissed when bred with Qin-Lung. Certainly the flying abilities will be transmissed, as well as the caracter/intelligence of Temeraire (to be bred with Qin-Lung is a great honor for Shen-Lung, so there must be many positive caracter traits for the dragonet). Presumely the fire but not the steam function of Iskierka will be transmissed. The dragonet will have a mixed color (black with red and green markings) and some thorns like its mother.
- The chinese didn't try to bred Celestials with other dragons than their own, because they didn't like the western countries and the Celestials were part of their Emperor's family and had a high reputation. Certainly there will be more possibilities to bred Celestials but they haven't been tried yet. As dragons need, says Mei, a "strong body" to have a Celestial's egg, heavyweight, fit, (weather, illness and caracter -) robust dragons (not the middleweight weak dragons in the breeding grounds), no breed to die out easily like the Flamme-de-Gloire, could be bred with Celestials (maybe Chequered Nettle, Shao-Lung Chanson-de-Guerre...).
- There must have been further ways to breed the divine wind because the Japanese had their Celestials and the chinese had their own Celestials before having stolen the Celestials from Japan. Maybe through an accident it would be possible to create a kind od divine wind in Europe too.
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Thread: „Crucible of Gold“; „Napoleon in Brazil“

- It seems very unrealistic to leave one's country for such a long time during the war to marry a foreign Queen although she has many dragons. Napoleon doesn't need neither the dragons nor the land, he has got Brazil for the Tswana. To get colonies was easy, he just had to conquer the european mothercountries, he didn't need to conquer the colonies.
- In the other books NN keeps nearer to history. To get Temeraire and Laurence to America would have been possible during the second independence war 1809 -1815.
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Thread: "Blood of Tyrants"; Various Themes

- It's fantastic that many old caracters appear again (the formation, Tharkay, Dyhern...).
- Other stories get lost or aren't told as detailed as it was expected (Junichiro, amnesia, seeing Temeraire again...)
- Hopefully the american dragon culture will be described nearer.
- The military tactic is described very realistic and amazing. But how can they win when Napoleon's position is so strong already?
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Thread: "Book 9"; "What do you wish to have in book 9?"

- An epic battle between Temeraire and Lien.
- Kulingile meets a female dragon he likes.
- We don't suppose a main caracter's death, not even Lien's death, although it would be a great stilistic adventure. But maybe a dragon of the formation and Tharkay will die.
- Where will Laurence and Temeraire live after the war? But this will certainly not be answered.
- We don't think Laurence will have any children or wife. Maybe a mate.
- To learn more about scandinavian/viking dragon culture.
- Hopefully there will be some more expanding short stories concering various sub-plots or questions.
- To meet many old friends.
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Thread: "Book 9"; "Name of Mianning's dragon"

- A western and a chinese name?/Just a chines name?/ Just a western name? Lung Tien Kai (kai =beginning, triumphant), Lung Tien Yun (yun = luck), Lung Tien Huang (huang = yellow, Emperor), Lung Huo Jin (jin = today, beloved)?
- New breed name? Maybe Huo-Lung (huo = fire).
- The hatchling chooses his own name/Mianning chooses the name/the ministers choose the name? Even if the dragonet chooses his own name it will certainly get a chinese name, because Temeraire got it too although he already had one. If Mianning doesn't have an english translator it will be a chinese name.
- Name referring to Mianning's pro-western politics/ to an ancient Emperor/ to the motherdragon?
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Thread: "The books in general"; "Dragon Biology"

- We couldn't make out how dragons can fly, how they can breath fire or spit acid or use the divine wind. We couldn't make out either how the air-sacs work but this is fantasy, there is no need to explain everything!
- Dragons hide about 70% of their possible eggs. Chinese and feral dragons lay more eggs. Maybe chinese dragons are treated more comfortably so that they lay more eggs. All dragons are proud of their eggs and are admired for numberous descendants. Maybe dragons can control their fertility either conscient or unconscient.
- Nature or nurture concerning dragon hierarchy and how dragons perceive it?
- If a feathery-scaled incan dragon and a normal french dragon had an egg together, what scales would be inheritated?
- Although the Pamir and the Andes are about 16,600ft/5000m high, the dragons living there can't fly so high over low plains. NEW: 2km high for normal dragons and much higher for Jade-dragons is no problem. Maximum speed of Jade-dragons is about 150km/h.
- Most cultures developed a kind of symbiosis with dragons so that there is nearly no difference between taming and breeding dragons (although that's still to discuss).
- How do dragons, who's wings are twice as long as their body (remember the incan breed Granby discovered), fold their wings?
- Dragons and humen share the same kind of intelligence so all sorts of behavior/lying/motivation... are the same as in our world. Obviously there is no dragon who is knowingly really lying.
- Dragons' relationship to their children is rather cool and distant although they care for the hatchling's future mate and they admire the humen relationship between parents and children. Dragon parents seem to be unimportant as we just know both parents of only six eggs (Caesar+brother, Chuan+Temeraire, Tharunka, T's son).
- Dragons can land on water an restart from it again but it is very exhausting and can just be done by very good aviators e.g. Celestials, Winchesters, Greylings, Angelwings.
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Thread: "The books in general"; "Alternate History"

- Napoleon planned to invade Britain with a Montgolfière-fleet and a submarine-fleet but he gave up because of missing money and technology. Maybe this and the airwar above Britain in WWII were NN's inspiration. The evacuation of thousands of soldiers from Dunkerque to Britain with many small boats via the Channel could have been an inspiration for Temeraire's evacuation during the siege of Danzig.
- The "American Dream" is much clearer and more practised because it isn't just the equality of men but the equality of species that is even more advanced than in China/Pusantinsuyo.
- Merlin could have judged the dragonfight between the red and the white dragon in NN's universe.
- Marco Polo's and Sindbad's bird Roc could have been a dragon instead.
- Although ships built with metal came up later than in NN's universe it could have been possible because there was an urge to invent them. But there wouldn't be an urge to invent airplanes.
- Joseph Pachacuti Yupanqui has his real model in Napoleon's son with the Princess of Austria. 
- The picture "Fighting Temeraire" drawn by W. Turner could show the dragon-Temeraire and his namesake the old french ship-Téméraire instead of two ships.
- Miss Lucas could be the Miss Lucas from Jane Austen's "Pride and Prejudice".
- Why don't the european kings have dragons as companions? All other cultures have.
- When the knowledge of dragon breeding got lost in the dark Middle Age, were there dragon-slayers again?
- Did the other high developed cultures (Persia, Eqypt, Babylon, Uruk, India, Olmece....) had dragons too? Where are those breeds gone to? Could they be rebred with the information from the crypric stones and papers? Until the Romans invaded Egypt there were possibly no dragons but their deity Apep looks like a dragon. The indian dragons were related to te chinsese dragons but maybe they just bred themselves and worked hardly. Of course they would not have been loyal to Britain.
- Could the Vikings and/or moorish people have reintroduced dragon breeding to Europe? What about the Arabians and their dragon culture? Are they more european or more chinese?
- Marcus Antonius committed suicide in reality, for a dragon Captain this would be very difficult. Maybe Vici died in action before Antonius died or she became crazy after his death and destroyed Octavius' whole army afterwards.
- Sir Francis Drake's nickname was in nearly all languages "the dragon". Maybe he had first the idea to fight together with Navy and Aerial Corps.
- When nearly all countries had their own dragon breeds (in fact we have never heard of specific polish breeds but there are some) what about the dragons breeds in the disunited Holy Roman Empire or the different kingdoms in Spain?
- With the fall of the roman empire the knowledge of dragon breeding vanished. It survived in eastern Rome (later Ottoman Empire).
- The traditional horse-riding peoples like the Huns, Cossacks or the Hungarians could be dragon-riding peoples in NN's universe.
- Did the Mongols and the Chinese both had dragons? The mongolian plains must have nurrished much more dragons than the chinese ones because the Chinese were defeated by Genghis Khan, later the Mongols were chased out of China.
- When Kublai Khan invaded Japan in 1274 he was defeatet by a taifun called the "divine wind". What if this wasn't a storm but a dragon? Maybe even Raiden was a Celestial. Whether NN got her inspiration for the special ability's name from there or the dragons got it from there.
- Some japanese Celestials must have survived the massacre and the stealing of the eggs but obviously they couldn't reproduce. Too less individuals of this breed? No other breed to interbreed? The Chinese and the Japanese had the same breeding success (Imperials who mutated to Celestials and japanese Celestials).
- The Yellow Emperor, the first mythical Celestial (who was obviously not bred by humen, maybe the dragons bred themselves), foundated a dynasty and brought culture to the humen. That indicates that the relationship between dragons and humen was more like in Pusantinsuyo at the beginning of the chinese empire.
- There were several other mythical (the scientists don't belive a word of it) Emperors, all of them reigned more than a century. What if these Emperors were dragons? 
- If each Qing-Emperor had a Celestial there aren't enough Celestials (we just know 8). Xian wasn't the first Celestial, obviously there have been several populations of Celestials. Maybe the Mongols took them home and rebrought them during the Qing-dynasty. Maybe the tradition to give a Celestial to each Emperor was introduced very late (with the Qing-dynasty) and before the dragons lived as part of the royal family in the capital not belonging to anybody. 
- Pizarro could conquer the Incans although he had no dragons because he took hostages and the dragons didn't want to bring them in danger. After it was clear that Pizarro would kill the hostages anyway (rember Atahualpa and Pahuac) the Portugese were chased out.
- The Chinese and the Romans had contact with each other. They traded and exchanged ambassadors and fighting strategies. Maybe they exchanged knowledge in dragon breeding or even eggs. That would explain how they could build up a dragon army in less than 500 years. The eastern dragon breeds (like the Kazilik) are more serpent-like, this could be a hint for formerly chinese breeds that were used.
- After the Romans vanished, their dragons were feral and mixed with ferals. Obviously they have been tamed again with no preknowledge in the middleage, the special abilities were still there but not as strong as before. When dragons were tamed randomly this number increased when the Huns attacked Europe. They certainly had dragons and the Europeans tamed dragons to defend themselves. Because the Romans exported their dragons (they breed for heavy armory and weight and special abilities not for elegance) there are more heavyweight dragons in Spain and France where their influence was bigger. The three fire-blowing breeds must have been one breed once (during the roman empire) and split up when they were retamed and rebred.
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